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Are Master's Degrees Overrated? The Dark Secret of Teacher Quality! - Dr. Albert Cheng

A few weeks ago I ran into Dr. Albert Cheng of the University of Arkansas.

Head shot of Dr. Albert Cheng

We started talking, and he mentioned he was in the department of education reform. I asked him, "What's one thing about education that you know, that you wish everyone knew?"

"Well," he said, "that teacher training, teacher certification, has no relationship to teacher quality."

I was floored.

I knew this happened in the counseling field. Despite what we say, certification in various models doesn't make you a better counselor. But to see the same in education was fascinating.

So I had to have him on the podcast.

In this interview we talk all about the problems education and how to fix it.




If you liked this post, consider reading this next. It's an interview on what makes therapists better (hint, it's not certification).


Jordan Harris, Ph.D., LMFT-S, LPC-S is the lead author of the book Deliberate Practice in Multicultural Therapy. Dr. Harris is also co-developer of the Numerapy Model, a coaching program teaching therapists how to leave community based work and start their own solo counseling practices. Dr. Harris runs a solo counseling practice (Harris Couples Counseling, Marriage Therapy, & Private Practice Coaching) in Northwest Arkansas where he specializes in working with couples.

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