AI Friday: You Will Need to Prove Your Clients Are Getting Better to Get Paid
- Jordanthecounselor
- Dec 5
- 2 min read
A podcast about Measurement Based Care and AI.
A few months ago, Rachel of The Mental Health Evolution podcast interviewed me about my article on how AI will change mental health.
I've been following her ever since and was delighted to listen to her interview with Dr. Dylan Ross.
Dr. Ross has spent most of his career working with the largest medical providers. His focus is on how to get more therapists to use Routine Outcome Monitoring (what he calls Measurement-Based Care or MBC).
His view is that insurance companies will soon use MBC for reimbursement.
In other words, how much you get paid will depend on how much your clients improve. And while I don't like the idea of insurance companies having so much power over what happens in the therapy room, I also know that therapists need more accountability.
People come to us hurting, and there really is no one making sure we're actually helping them.
I'm thinking particularly here of a friend whose daughter is suffering from OCD. They've been through three therapists so far. They are still struggling to find someone to help their daughter—and someone who takes their insurance.
If they had a therapists who they knew was consistently good at working with girls with OCD it would save them a lot of heartache.
My other major takeaway is that Ross is very aware that adopting MBC is really hard.
Mostly, this is because counselors already have tons of paperwork to keep up with.
His big idea is that AI will be able to function as a personal assistant.
AI can lower the amount of non-clinical work we have to do, freeing us to spend more time on client care.
I really like that idea.
So if this sounds interesting to you, I recommend you listen to this on your commute.
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Jordan Harris Jordan Harris, Ph.D., LMFT-S, LPC-S, received his Doctor of Philosophy in Marriage and Family Therapy from the University of Louisiana Monroe. He is a licensed professional counselor and a licensed marriage and family therapist in the state of Arkansas, USA. In his clinical work, he enjoys working with couples. He also runs a blog on deliberate practice for therapists and counselors at Jordanthecounselor.com
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